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True or false

Post by Booma » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:28 pm

I heard something from a girl at work that I'm pretty damn sure isn't true, bur I wonder has anyone else heard this before. The girl claims that if a pure bitches first litter is with a cross/mutt, then the quality of future litters will be poorer than if her first litter was with a pure dog of the same breed. She wouldnt listen to anything I said swore up and down it was true.
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Re: True or false

Post by Blustag » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:36 pm

NOT TRUE!

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Re: True or false

Post by Booma » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:40 pm

Knew it. Gonna rub it in her face tomorrow.
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Re: True or false

Post by JulieSmith » Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:00 pm

That is a bit like saying if a White woman's first baby is to a black guy all her babies will be black. Well they will be I suppose if she keeps with the same dad everytime :lol:

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Re: True or false

Post by Sylvaen » Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:40 pm

wow it's crazy what some people believe to be true... hahahaha
such nonsense :roll: :lol:
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Re: True or false

Post by Valravn » Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:59 pm

That makes absolutely no sense. :?

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Re: True or false

Post by Booma » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:50 pm

I know! She wouldn't believe me wen I said it was crap. She even went and had her dogs pups aborted when the mongrel next door got in to her samoyd when she was in heat.
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Re: True or false

Post by Dozer » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:56 pm

ok having a big laugh here about how stupid some people can be

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Re: True or false

Post by Booma » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:58 pm

Well... She IS Irish (sorry any Irish ppl who might get offended)
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Re: True or false

Post by JulieSmith » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:10 pm

Kyliedelonge wrote:I know! She wouldn't believe me wen I said it was crap. She even went and had her dogs pups aborted when the mongrel next door got in to her samoyd when she was in heat.
She probably wanted to justify that decision :(

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Re: True or false

Post by Katlin » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:10 pm

Kyliedelonge wrote:Well... She IS Irish (sorry any Irish ppl who might get offended)
Ah NOT cool there hun :shock: :evil:

As for the topic...well LOL is all I can say!
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Re: True or false

Post by Saxon » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:41 pm

Hi everyone
whilst we are on the true or false subject I have been told that if a bitch mates with more than one dog when she is in season that she can have pups that are from all the dogs she has mated with :roll:

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Re: True or false

Post by TerriHolt » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:43 pm

Kyliedelonge wrote:Knew it. Gonna rub it in her face tomorrow.

lol, My Favorite Pastime :D
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Re: True or false

Post by Rahne » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:17 pm

Saxon wrote:Hi everyone
whilst we are on the true or false subject I have been told that if a bitch mates with more than one dog when she is in season that she can have pups that are from all the dogs she has mated with :roll:
Umm Pete, this is actually true ;)

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Re: True or false

Post by Dozer » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:23 pm

Rahne wrote:
Saxon wrote:Hi everyone
whilst we are on the true or false subject I have been told that if a bitch mates with more than one dog when she is in season that she can have pups that are from all the dogs she has mated with :roll:
Umm Pete, this is actually true ;)
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Re: True or false

Post by Booma » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:35 pm

Wow really? I've never heard that one
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Re: True or false

Post by Katlin » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:43 pm

Yep, take a look at RPK's Shamaskan inu, there were a couple other pups in that litter that were regular shibas and then 1 tam cross.
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Re: True or false

Post by Booma » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:52 pm

Oh I heard about that, but I thought that the bitch just had one puppy.
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Re: True or false

Post by Nino » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:43 pm

It's like with cats.. It only takes 1 (right) sperm cell to fertilize 1 egg.. so if there are like 9 eggs that will survive, if the female mated to 9 males in theory all pups could have different fathers..

I also suspect this is why dogs stick together after the mating, to insure that the males sperm get to as many eggs as possible :)
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Re: True or false

Post by EskyTheHusky » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:03 am

Some breeders use this to their advantage, using semen from two males their bitch can have a dual sire mating.
It means the bitch can essentially have 2 litters but only whelp once. Have their been any dual sired tam litters?

Strange what old wives tales people believe.
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Re: True or false

Post by Blustag » Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:25 pm

If two males mate a female within 12 hours then you can have a mixed litter. After that though it will be sired by the first male. Several males could get
to her after that but a safe bet is 24 hours or more later. If I wanted to do a mating with one dog I wasnt sure of I would back it up 48 hours later with another male. For me I can always DNA test as well of course. I have only done this once or twice in all the years of breeding.

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Re: True or false

Post by martinbernstein » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:46 pm

The things people believe in, huh? Tell her to buy a 7th grade biology textbook and read it cover to cover. I've done this before (I have two little brothers) and I seriously learned so much that I'd forgotten or didn't pay attention to in 7th grade.

But speaking of mating and mutts; there is a really interesting phenomenon which I'm sure several of you are familiar with called 'hybrid vigor.' When two distantly related organisms (within the same genera or species) mate and are able to produce offspring, the offspring sometimes develops into an unusually vigorous organism. An example of this is found in the Liger (male lion x female tiger) which is often twice as big as both parents.

In dog breeds it is usually expressed in the overall health of the offspring, rather than the size. In plants it can result in favorable survival and reproductive traits, though in animals it often results in sterility.

My girl friend's a botanist and I have bred reptiles (including hybrid snakes) for a while, which is why I know these somewhat useless but fun facts.

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Re: True or false

Post by Tiantai » Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:36 pm

Kyliedelonge wrote:I heard something from a girl at work that I'm pretty damn sure isn't true, bur I wonder has anyone else heard this before. The girl claims that if a pure bitches first litter is with a cross/mutt, then the quality of future litters will be poorer than if her first litter was with a pure dog of the same breed. She wouldnt listen to anything I said swore up and down it was true.
COMPLETELY UNTRUE!
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Re: True or false

Post by Katlin » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:43 pm

Kyliedelonge wrote:I heard something from a girl at work that I'm pretty damn sure isn't true, bur I wonder has anyone else heard this before. The girl claims that if a pure bitches first litter is with a cross/mutt, then the quality of future litters will be poorer than if her first litter was with a pure dog of the same breed. She wouldnt listen to anything I said swore up and down it was true.
You seem to hear a lot of very strange things at work... :| And no it's not true...
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Re: True or false

Post by Booma » Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:35 am

I know some strange people :p
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Re: True or false

Post by blufawn » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:54 pm

That put a smile on my face, almost as bad as the girl in the hardware store arguing that 3 x 5 was not 15, it was 5 x 3 that equals 15 lol
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Post by HiTenshi16 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:32 pm

blufawn wrote:That put a smile on my face, almost as bad as the girl in the hardware store arguing that 3 x 5 was not 15, it was 5 x 3 that equals 15 lol
:lol: :lol: So what did she say 3 x 5 was if not 15? :lol:
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HiTenshi16 wrote:
blufawn wrote:That put a smile on my face, almost as bad as the girl in the hardware store arguing that 3 x 5 was not 15, it was 5 x 3 that equals 15 lol
:lol: :lol: So what did she say 3 x 5 was if not 15? :lol:
Obviously 20 :shock: :lol:
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Re: True or false

Post by issylupus » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:49 pm

Katlin wrote:
HiTenshi16 wrote:
blufawn wrote:That put a smile on my face, almost as bad as the girl in the hardware store arguing that 3 x 5 was not 15, it was 5 x 3 that equals 15 lol
:lol: :lol: So what did she say 3 x 5 was if not 15? :lol:
Obviously 20 :shock: :lol:
:lol: :lol: or maybe 51 ??? if she was reversing the sum... :lol: :lol:
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Re: True or false

Post by Nino » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:51 pm

don't you guys know it's 42??!?!?!

42 is the answer to EVERYTHING!
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Re: True or false

Post by Sylvaen » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:55 pm

Nino wrote:don't you guys know it's 42??!?!?!

42 is the answer to EVERYTHING!
exactly! :lol:
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Re: True or false

Post by issylupus » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:01 pm

Sylvaen wrote:
Nino wrote:don't you guys know it's 42??!?!?!

42 is the answer to EVERYTHING!
exactly! :lol:
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Post by HiTenshi16 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:36 pm

issylupus wrote:
Sylvaen wrote:
Nino wrote:don't you guys know it's 42??!?!?!

42 is the answer to EVERYTHING!
exactly! :lol:
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Re: True or false

Post by AZDehlin » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:54 pm

bahaha, this story made my day :D

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Re: True or false

Post by Nikola1985Ghaeltacht » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:35 am

Kyliedelonge wrote:Well... She IS Irish (sorry any Irish ppl who might get offended)
NOT COOL AT ALL. You live in a prison colony :lol:
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Re: True or false

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JulieSmith wrote:That is a bit like saying if a White woman's first baby is to a black guy all her babies will be black. Well they will be I suppose if she keeps with the same dad everytime :lol:

That's a bit racist I think. :?
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Re: True or false

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Nikola1985Ghaeltacht wrote:
Kyliedelonge wrote:Well... She IS Irish (sorry any Irish ppl who might get offended)
NOT COOL AT ALL. You live in a prison colony :lol:
Actually I'm in Perth, where the dutchies landed. England sent all their unwanteds to the east coast. Haha
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Re: True or false

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Kyliedelonge wrote:
Nikola1985Ghaeltacht wrote:
Kyliedelonge wrote:Well... She IS Irish (sorry any Irish ppl who might get offended)
NOT COOL AT ALL. You live in a prison colony :lol:
Actually I'm in Perth, where the dutchies landed. England sent all their unwanteds to the east coast. Haha
Well I must be Irish :D
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Post by TerriHolt » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:00 am

Kyliedelonge wrote:
Nikola1985Ghaeltacht wrote:
Kyliedelonge wrote:Well... She IS Irish (sorry any Irish ppl who might get offended)
NOT COOL AT ALL. You live in a prison colony :lol:
Actually I'm in Perth, where the dutchies landed. England sent all their unwanteds to the east coast. Haha
and now when we send them (disguised as a holiday) we get them deported back :evil: :lol:
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Re: True or false

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Nikola1985Ghaeltacht wrote:
JulieSmith wrote:That is a bit like saying if a White woman's first baby is to a black guy all her babies will be black. Well they will be I suppose if she keeps with the same dad everytime :lol:

That's a bit racist I think. :?
Sorry did not mean it to be racist, just pointing out that no one would think something so silly of people, but they will believe it of dogs, well I assume no one would think that, but you never know :roll:

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Re: True or false

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JulieSmith wrote:
Nikola1985Ghaeltacht wrote:
JulieSmith wrote:That is a bit like saying if a White woman's first baby is to a black guy all her babies will be black. Well they will be I suppose if she keeps with the same dad everytime :lol:

That's a bit racist I think. :?
Sorry did not mean it to be racist, just pointing out that no one would think something so silly of people, but they will believe it of dogs, well I assume no one would think that, but you never know :roll:
Well people do think of the strangest things :P
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Re: True or false

Post by JulieSmith » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:53 pm

Nikola1985Ghaeltacht wrote:Well people do think of the strangest things :P
Unfortunately I think you might be right there :roll: Even worse are the people who don't bother thinking at all and just accept whatever they are told or read :roll: :roll:

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Re: True or false

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JulieSmith wrote:
Nikola1985Ghaeltacht wrote:Well people do think of the strangest things :P
Unfortunately I think you might be right there :roll: Even worse are the people who don't bother thinking at all and just accept whatever they are told or read :roll: :roll:

The thing is that is easier and most of the things you here in your life are true and could be takan as such whithout question.
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Re: True or false

Post by Sylvaen » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:31 pm

JulieSmith wrote:
Nikola1985Ghaeltacht wrote:
JulieSmith wrote:That is a bit like saying if a White woman's first baby is to a black guy all her babies will be black. Well they will be I suppose if she keeps with the same dad everytime :lol:

That's a bit racist I think. :?
Sorry did not mean it to be racist, just pointing out that no one would think something so silly of people, but they will believe it of dogs, well I assume no one would think that, but you never know :roll:
I actually read a topic on the Croatian forum (forum.hr) in which someone believed that...
I'll try to find the thread, if it still exists! :roll: :shock:
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