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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by Nino » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:54 am

caninesrock wrote:
Nino wrote: Taz is not a Tamaskan
I believe that Tumanra is a Foundation Dog
Dallas is a G1
Rann is a Foundation dog
Kenai is a Tamaskan - though have never produced and wasn't born one :)
What do you mean by wasn't born one? How could he not be born one? What was he considered then? A Utognan?
What breeds were Tumanra and Rann?
Born Utonagan as far as I know.. Had he been eligible for breeding I am sure he would have been an FD dog
Tums and Rann both Utonagan as far as I know
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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by caninesrock » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:33 am

Nino wrote:
caninesrock wrote:
Nino wrote: Taz is not a Tamaskan
I believe that Tumanra is a Foundation Dog
Dallas is a G1
Rann is a Foundation dog
Kenai is a Tamaskan - though have never produced and wasn't born one :)
What do you mean by wasn't born one? How could he not be born one? What was he considered then? A Utognan?
What breeds were Tumanra and Rann?
Born Utonagan as far as I know.. Had he been eligible for breeding I am sure he would have been an FD dog
Tums and Rann both Utonagan as far as I know
Ok. Thank you for letting me know. How can a dog change breeds though? :?

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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by Nino » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:47 pm

caninesrock wrote:Ok. Thank you for letting me know. How can a dog change breeds though? :?
Using them for creating a new one? :lol:
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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by blufawn » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:45 pm

All foundation dogs of a new breed are born as something else, be it a cross breed like Jackal or a Siberian Husky like Nanna....
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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by caninesrock » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:55 am

blufawn wrote:All foundation dogs of a new breed are born as something else, be it a cross breed like Jackal or a Siberian Husky like Nanna....
Oh. Ok. But in the case of Nanna, she would still be considered a husky though. Right? Since Siberian huskies are purebred dogs. But Jackal is(was) a mixed breed but then became a Tamaskan when the breed got recognized?

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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by Nino » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:56 am

caninesrock wrote:
blufawn wrote:All foundation dogs of a new breed are born as something else, be it a cross breed like Jackal or a Siberian Husky like Nanna....
Oh. Ok. But in the case of Nanna, she would still be considered a husky though. Right? Since Siberian huskies are purebred dogs. But Jackal is(was) a mixed breed but then became a Tamaskan when the breed got recognized?
Both Nanna and Jackal would be considered Foundation dogs (FD) and thereby you would know that they weren't born Tamaskan Dogs..

The breed haven't been recognized ;)
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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by blufawn » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:49 am

Nanna is considered a foundation dog of the Tamaskan breed, the same as Jackal, Dingo, Jodie, Susi, Rann, Lousa, Kyte etc etc
All were born as something else but then reborn as a Tamaskan Dog. Of course that does not stop Nanna being a husky, but she is also a Tamaskan and is registered with the TDR, of course we would never suggest she is a pure Tamaskan and has never been anything else.
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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by Dozer » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:06 pm

I indeed had quiestions about this so thanks for clearing this up in this topic :D

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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by caninesrock » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:55 am

I've made a list of all the foundation dogs whose breeds I have found through searching the forum and the pedigree database. I apologize if some I listed as Tamaskan are not Tamaskan,but I assumed all listed were as they were in the Tamaskan database and didn't have FD(Foundation Dog) abbreviation in their registration numbers which would have indicated that they were a different breed from being a Tamaskan if I understand correctly. The ones I have bolded, I am not sure on the breeds as I couldn't find anything about them. Some I could make guesses,but I don't want to since I don't know for sure. If anyone has a Foundation Dog Booklet and knows what some of the bolded dogs are or know through some other reliable means, the info would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to figure out what all breeds went into the making of the Tamaskan. Thanks.
Foundation Dogs:
1.Alba Lycan-Tamaskan
2.Alba Sumarlidl-Tamaskan
3.Anzara
4.Buck
5.Call of the Wild
6.Blustag Care Bear-Tamaskan
7.Chanoni
8.Cougar
9.Digit
10.Hanuka
11.Inca
12.Keisha
13.Kiwani
14.Kwakiuth at Alba-Siberian Husky Mix
15.Kyte at Blustag-Northern Inuit Dog
16.Blustag River Rising at J&J-Tamaskan
17.Luca
18.Majic
19.Moon
20.Moonstone Lovelight-Tamaskan
21.Neisha
22.Night
23.Ohanzee of Torriarno-Utonagan
24.Shanaska
25.Spotted Wolf
26.Sylka-Northern Inuit Dog
27.Taz-German Shepherd Dog Mix
28.Thor-Alaskan Malamute or Alaskan Malamute Mix
29.Timber-Tamaskan
30.Tumanra at Blustag-Utonagan
31.Tuumi
32.Wahosi
33.Wappo
34.Blustag Menominee Owl at J&J-Tamaskan
35.Nanny McPhee at Blustag-Siberian Husky
36.Blustag Mystic Spirit-Tamaskan
37.TdCh Paloose at Blustag-Northern Inuit Dog
38.TdCh Blustag Star Burst-Tamaskan
39.Blustag Louba-Tamaskan
40.Blustag Little Bear-Tamaskan
41.J&J Moonstruck Tundra at Tarheel-Tamaskan
42.Blustag Silver Moon at Moonstone-Tamaskan
43.Two Socks at Moonstone-Siberian Husky Mix
44.Dingo at Blustag-Siberian Husky-Czech Wolfdog Mix
45.Oskari-Czechoslovakian Wolfdog
46.Jackal at Blustag-Siberian Husky-Czech Wolfdog Mix
47.Pauline-Siberian Husky
48.Susi-Siberian Husky Mix
49.Apache Horse-Saarloos Wolfhond
50.TdCh Jodie at Blustag-Siberian Husky-High Content Wolfdog Mix
51.Euro-Siberian Husky
52.Blustag Star Dust at Alba-Tamaskan
53.Moonstone Make Me Pure at Alba-Tamaskan

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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by Nino » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:21 am

caninesrock wrote: 47.Pauline Siberian Husky
51.Euro Siberian Husky
You need to look into what Foundation dog means though..

In the Tamaskan a Foundation dog is a dog which was used in the actual foundation of the Tamaskan - not what lays behind these dogs..

this means that Rann was a FD dog - but what is behind him is not.
Valko/Whitefang was a foundation dog - but Boogie and his mother was not..
Some of the dogs on your list, are not really foundation dogs, but is behind those dogs..
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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by caninesrock » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:22 am

Nino wrote:
caninesrock wrote: 47.Pauline Siberian Husky
51.Euro Siberian Husky
You need to look into what Foundation dog means though..

In the Tamaskan a Foundation dog is a dog which was used in the actual foundation of the Tamaskan - not what lays behind these dogs..

this means that Rann was a FD dog - but what is behind him is not.
Valko/Whitefang was a foundation dog - but Boogie and his mother was not..
Some of the dogs on your list, are not really foundation dogs, but is behind those dogs..
Ok. Thanks. I was just trying to figure out the breeds of all the dogs who had pictures on the Facebook page linked to. I know not all of them are actual foundation dogs. Btw, any idea what Cougar is? I have suspicions that he is either a corgi or corgi mix as he looks very corgi-ish or a Swedish Vallhund as they are also dogs that to me look identical to corgis yet come in very wolfy colors unlike the corgis I've seen. I don't want to list either as his breed as I don't know for sure.

This is the photo of Cougar:

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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by Nino » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:35 pm

Definately not a corgi..

I was told at some point that the picture did not do his size justice - meaning that he didn't have that short legs irl
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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by Tiantai » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:42 pm

Speaking of foundation dogs AND dogs behind the foundation lines, why does the database's pedigree only list the dogs' registered names but not their called names? For example, Boogie is still listed as Ivan in the pedigree.
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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by arianwenarie » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:02 pm

Tiantai wrote:Speaking of foundation dogs AND dogs behind the foundation lines, why does the database's pedigree only list the dogs' registered names but not their called names? For example, Boogie is still listed as Ivan in the pedigree.
I believe the names shown in the database pedigrees list the names from the paperwork that the Blus provided. Unless their registered name is confirmed, then it only lists their call names as the Blus had them.

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Re: Tamaskan Ancestry

Post by caninesrock » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:13 pm

Nino wrote:Definately not a corgi..

I was told at some point that the picture did not do his size justice - meaning that he didn't have that short legs irl
Oh. Ok. I guess pictures can be deceiving. Thanks.

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