Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Ciaobella » Thu May 17, 2012 6:16 am

WOW! He is so handsome :D

Like WOW. Gorgeous boy!
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Eventide » Thu May 17, 2012 5:09 pm

Rahne, as I said on FB, he is one handsome boy. I also asked how this happened and if there was the possibility of a white litter, assuming a match could be found similar to Winter's parentage for breeding, and assuming you plan on breeding him. I believe someone answered that anymore white like Winter would be unlikely. Why? What would it take, genetically, to have littlers of white Tams? Just curious.
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Post by Rahne » Thu May 17, 2012 6:20 pm

Dottie wrote:Rahne, as I said on FB, he is one handsome boy. I also asked how this happened and if there was the possibility of a white litter, assuming a match could be found similar to Winter's parentage for breeding, and assuming you plan on breeding him. I believe someone answered that anymore white like Winter would be unlikely. Why? What would it take, genetically, to have littlers of white Tams? Just curious.
Genetically the 'white' is dilution of red (phaeomelanin) pigment, the genes that causes this is (believed) to be located on the C locus. Normal (not diluted) pigment is dominant over diluted pigment which means the 'white' is recessive and both parents need to carry the genes for it. I will keep it simple to explain but theoretically this is not 100% correct since you have several different markers that can cause dilution..

C = dominant 'white' gene
c = recessive 'white' gene

Every dog has 2 genes (one pair), one inherited from the mother and the other inherited from the father.
A dog that is:

CC = both dominant 'white' genes so dog isn't white and can only pass one the dominant gene to its offspring.
Cc = one dominant 'white' gene and one recessive 'white' gene. Dog isn't white but does carry it so could pass it on to offspring.
cc = both recessive 'white' genes so dog is white and can only pass one the recessive gene to its offspring.

Winter is cc because he is white. His parents are not white but they have passed on the genes for it so they are both carriers = Cc.
The color comes from Winter his grandfather, Whitefang, who was a white. He produced 3 dogs that were/are used for breeding: Heidi, Summer and Skye. They are all carriers since they have gotten Whitefang his recessive gene. Winter his father Bodie is also a carrier and he got the gene from his mother Jodie who is a full sister to Whitefang. So currently there are 5 known 'white' carriers: Heidi, Summer, Skye, Jodie and Bodie. They could pass on the gene to their offspring so all of their descendants could be carriers but you never know for certain unless you would DNA test them (don't think that is possible yet for this gene) or they produce white offspring themselves.

I don't know if the 'white' is carried in any other bloodline. If you breed any of those 5 dogs together that are known carriers then every pup from the litter has 25% chance of being a white. I don't think it's unlikely there will be more whites in the future. If any descendants of Heidi, Summer, Skye and Jodie are bred together there is a chance of more whites and if it is carried in other bloodlines aswell then the chance becomes bigger.

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If you want a whole litter of whites then you would need to mate two whites together. If Winter is bred to a colored ('white' carrier) female then all pups would have 50% chance of being white and if he is bred to a colored (non-carrier) female then the whole litter will be colored ('white' carriers).

Hope this makes sense :mrgreen:
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Eventide » Thu May 17, 2012 8:26 pm

Yes it does and thank you for the explanation. Would love to see more whites!
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by JulieSmith » Fri May 18, 2012 2:19 pm

Stunning dog

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Rahne » Thu May 31, 2012 9:03 am

Winter 17 weeks old:

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Lynwae » Thu May 31, 2012 9:33 am

He is soooooo beautiful.
I love him :D

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by susann » Thu May 31, 2012 11:12 am

Really cute boy :)

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Post by HiTenshi16 » Thu May 31, 2012 11:58 am

I can't get over how much I love his looks :D
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by JulieSmith » Thu May 31, 2012 12:59 pm

WOW he is stunning, he looks like he is a cheeky boy though :lol:

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Gaby » Thu May 31, 2012 3:54 pm

Wow, I LOVE his expression. Beautiful eyes too. Most of the times, puppies in this age aren't at their best because they are so out of proportion. :lol: But you can already see that he is very well build and he will be stunning when he is older. I'm very, very, curious how he will look when he is fully grown. I'll bet you he will be an eye-catcher, because he is that now already!! :D

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Kootenaywolf » Thu May 31, 2012 5:06 pm

Wow! Stunning!

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Rahne » Thu May 31, 2012 5:11 pm

JulieSmith wrote:WOW he is stunning, he looks like he is a cheeky boy though :lol:
He's a 'terror' pup :twisted: :mrgreen:

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by CSpiker86 » Thu May 31, 2012 5:30 pm

:D a beautiful boy! such a stunning color, he is soo cute
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Blustag » Thu May 31, 2012 11:25 pm

He is looking good and I can see his mum Heidi in the head study photo of him. Still got his lovely yellow eyes. :D His ears are
growing faster than his head at the moment but they should end up a lot smaller like his sire and dams when adult.

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by blufawn » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:01 pm

I know its a random thing to comment on, but love his tail on that 1st photo!
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by AZDehlin » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:57 pm

blufawn wrote:I know its a random thing to comment on, but love his tail on that 1st photo!
I was thinking the same thing.

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Rahne » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:16 pm

Update, Winter is almost 6 months old. He is totally out of proportions at the moment, very lanky :mrgreen:

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Valravn » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:28 pm

Looking good! :D I'm starting to think you should have named him Kiba! lol

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Cornelia1986 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:40 pm

Look at his eyes!!!!! WOW-unbelievable! Is his training now easier? Or has he become a terror-teen :D
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by TParham86 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:26 pm

Wow! He is soo handsome! :D

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by AZDehlin » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:28 pm

He is growing up so fast.

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by HiTenshi16 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:50 am

Lovely long legs :lol: Still just love his eyes and colour <3
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Kootenaywolf » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:31 pm

Yay, new Winter pictures! Love how he looks. His legs are something else! How tall is he now? He is so stunning.

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Ciaobella » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:49 am

I agree those eyes are striking! He still is one of my favs next to Konah, hard to believe he is 6 months already!
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Gaby » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:47 pm

He lost his puppy teeth already, time flies! I love his eyes, he looks stunning and he will even be prettier I think! :D How is his character now?

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Post by Rahne » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:36 pm

I can't measure Winter, he doesn't stand still :lol:
He doesn't look very big, as he doesn't have much 'body', and overall still looks very much like a puppy. If he is standing straight, right next to Konah, he is almost as tall as her so my estimate... about 64/65cm shoulderheight.

He's a sweet boy, though still doesn't enjoy being petted by strangers. With other dogs he seems calmer then before but still get his hackles up and occasionally he will bark or growl at the other dog. If he spots a dog while he is offleash he will run straight to it with hackles raised, after he sniffed the dog then it's ok and he calms down. Today he and Konah have played with an 11 month old Amstaff male and that went fine.

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Gaby » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:42 pm

Great news Rahne. Keep up the good work!

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Tatzel » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:36 pm

He's so handsome! I'm so curious for how he'll turn out :D
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Rahne » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:26 pm

My mud puppy is almost 7 months old :D

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Cornelia1986 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:44 pm

Ahhh, he is still a beauty! It's ok if you give him as a gift to me?! :lol: :lol:
If his health tests are ok would you use him as a studdog? His puppies could be awesome - as I love the arctic wolf look.
You must feel very lucky with two so damn beautiful dogs.
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Post by Kootenaywolf » Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:12 pm

Winter is stunning! Love the photos.

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Post by claireyclaire » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:36 pm

Ah the joys of owning a white dog :lol:
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Post by HiTenshi16 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:24 pm

He does not look to white anymore :lol:
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by AZDehlin » Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:44 am

He is great looking... I can't wait to see him in a thick winter coat.

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Post by Rahne » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:42 am

Cornelia1986 wrote:Ahhh, he is still a beauty! It's ok if you give him as a gift to me?! :lol: :lol:
If his health tests are ok would you use him as a studdog? His puppies could be awesome - as I love the arctic wolf look.
You must feel very lucky with two so damn beautiful dogs.
Thanks! Yes I hope he can be used as studdog in the future :)

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Sylvaen » Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:35 am

He's turning out great, I especially love the last photo.
He'll be so tall when he is full grown... :D
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by frogline » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:50 pm

Rahne wrote: Image
Who's the tongue??? :lol:
:o OMG!!! flying on the right!!! :lol:

7 months and 70 cm at the shoulder???
:shock: what a biiiig boy! I love it!
Heyden have now 8 close months but only 63 cm at the shoulder!!!
Is Winter Grizzly crossed like Nanuq??? ;) (I love the both!)

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Post by Tarheel » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:08 pm

Great photos and a wonderful looking dog. Does she ever like to stay clean?
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Rahne » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:31 pm

Lol, Winter his tongue is soooo long and he has it out of his mouth a lot :lol:
I'm very curious to see how big he will become in the end, he's really huge for his age :o People don't think he is a puppy when they see him so when I say he is just 7 months old they're shocked lol.


Ohh and he LOVES the mud so he never stays clean for very long :mrgreen:

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Nino » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:32 am

Well he might do as his sis, and stop growing around 10-11 months..
Her tongue is giant btw too ;)
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Rahne » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:19 pm

Update on Winter:

He's doing great, made a lot of progress! Sadly he's been attacked by several intact males these past few weeks, though he wasn't hurt it's a step back again dealing with other dogs :(

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Post by HiTenshi16 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:24 pm

He is gorgeous :)
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Kootenaywolf » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:25 am

He's stunning! So sorry to hear about him being attacked. That happened to Yarrow the other week, as well, and I was so upset :( He wasn't hurt either, but I'm so concerned it will have an emotional effect on him. It's a big reason I would consider neutering Yarrow. Intact males always seem to get picked on!

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Post by TeresaC » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:48 am

he has some crazy long legs! Sorry he has had some problems with intact males. Dylan had the same issue when he was an adolescent and it made him nervouse around other dogs. I hope you are able to work through it quickly!!
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by TerriHolt » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:43 pm

How do you always end up with the dogs with the loooong legs ? :lol:

How tall is he now?
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Gaby » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:53 pm

Winter is so pretty! I just loooove his eyes. I'm so curious what he will look like when he is about three years of age. You must be very proud of him Rahne! :D

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by BinBin » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:43 am

Winter def has a lot of Valko's appearance, I suspect him to grow up looking more or less like him! Very cute. :)
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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Rahne » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:14 pm

I will see if I can measure and weigh him this weekend, aswell as take some new pictures :)

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Re: Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Post by Ciaobella » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:00 am

What a gorgeous boy!!
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