Winter (Blustag Golden Boy)

Ciaobella · Post by **Ciaobella** » Thu May 17, 2012 6:16 am

WOW! He is so handsome

Like WOW. Gorgeous boy!

Eventide · Post by **Eventide** » Thu May 17, 2012 5:09 pm

Rahne, as I said on FB, he is one handsome boy. I also asked how this happened and if there was the possibility of a white litter, assuming a match could be found similar to Winter's parentage for breeding, and assuming you plan on breeding him. I believe someone answered that anymore white like Winter would be unlikely. Why? What would it take, genetically, to have littlers of white Tams? Just curious.

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Thu May 17, 2012 6:20 pm

Dottie wrote:Rahne, as I said on FB, he is one handsome boy. I also asked how this happened and if there was the possibility of a white litter, assuming a match could be found similar to Winter's parentage for breeding, and assuming you plan on breeding him. I believe someone answered that anymore white like Winter would be unlikely. Why? What would it take, genetically, to have littlers of white Tams? Just curious.

Genetically the 'white' is dilution of red (phaeomelanin) pigment, the genes that causes this is (believed) to be located on the C locus. Normal (not diluted) pigment is dominant over diluted pigment which means the 'white' is recessive and both parents need to carry the genes for it. I will keep it simple to explain but theoretically this is not 100% correct since you have several different markers that can cause dilution..

C = dominant 'white' gene
c = recessive 'white' gene

Every dog has 2 genes (one pair), one inherited from the mother and the other inherited from the father.
A dog that is:

CC = both dominant 'white' genes so dog isn't white and can only pass one the dominant gene to its offspring.
Cc = one dominant 'white' gene and one recessive 'white' gene. Dog isn't white but does carry it so could pass it on to offspring.
cc = both recessive 'white' genes so dog is white and can only pass one the recessive gene to its offspring.

Winter is cc because he is white. His parents are not white but they have passed on the genes for it so they are both carriers = Cc.
The color comes from Winter his grandfather, Whitefang, who was a white. He produced 3 dogs that were/are used for breeding: Heidi, Summer and Skye. They are all carriers since they have gotten Whitefang his recessive gene. Winter his father Bodie is also a carrier and he got the gene from his mother Jodie who is a full sister to Whitefang. So currently there are 5 known 'white' carriers: Heidi, Summer, Skye, Jodie and Bodie. They could pass on the gene to their offspring so all of their descendants could be carriers but you never know for certain unless you would DNA test them (don't think that is possible yet for this gene) or they produce white offspring themselves.

I don't know if the 'white' is carried in any other bloodline. If you breed any of those 5 dogs together that are known carriers then every pup from the litter has 25% chance of being a white. I don't think it's unlikely there will be more whites in the future. If any descendants of Heidi, Summer, Skye and Jodie are bred together there is a chance of more whites and if it is carried in other bloodlines aswell then the chance becomes bigger.

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If you want a whole litter of whites then you would need to mate two whites together. If Winter is bred to a colored ('white' carrier) female then all pups would have 50% chance of being white and if he is bred to a colored (non-carrier) female then the whole litter will be colored ('white' carriers).

Hope this makes sense

Eventide · Post by **Eventide** » Thu May 17, 2012 8:26 pm

Yes it does and thank you for the explanation. Would love to see more whites!

JulieSmith · Post by **JulieSmith** » Fri May 18, 2012 2:19 pm

Stunning dog

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Thu May 31, 2012 9:03 am

Winter 17 weeks old:

Post by **Lynwae** » Thu May 31, 2012 9:33 am

He is soooooo beautiful.
I love him

susann · Post by **susann** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:12 am

Really cute boy

HiTenshi16 · Post by **HiTenshi16** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:58 am

I can't get over how much I love his looks

JulieSmith · Post by **JulieSmith** » Thu May 31, 2012 12:59 pm

WOW he is stunning, he looks like he is a cheeky boy though

Gaby · Post by **Gaby** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:54 pm

Wow, I LOVE his expression. Beautiful eyes too. Most of the times, puppies in this age aren't at their best because they are so out of proportion.

But you can already see that he is very well build and he will be stunning when he is older. I'm very, very, curious how he will look when he is fully grown. I'll bet you he will be an eye-catcher, because he is that now already!!

Kootenaywolf · Post by **Kootenaywolf** » Thu May 31, 2012 5:06 pm

Wow! Stunning!

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Thu May 31, 2012 5:11 pm

JulieSmith wrote:WOW he is stunning, he looks like he is a cheeky boy though

He's a 'terror' pup

CSpiker86 · Post by **CSpiker86** » Thu May 31, 2012 5:30 pm

a beautiful boy! such a stunning color, he is soo cute

Blustag · Post by **Blustag** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:25 pm

He is looking good and I can see his mum Heidi in the head study photo of him. Still got his lovely yellow eyes.

His ears are
growing faster than his head at the moment but they should end up a lot smaller like his sire and dams when adult.

blufawn · Post by **blufawn** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:01 pm

I know its a random thing to comment on, but love his tail on that 1st photo!

AZDehlin · Post by **AZDehlin** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:57 pm

blufawn wrote:I know its a random thing to comment on, but love his tail on that 1st photo!

I was thinking the same thing.

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:16 pm

Update, Winter is almost 6 months old. He is totally out of proportions at the moment, very lanky

Valravn · Post by **Valravn** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:28 pm

Looking good!

I'm starting to think you should have named him Kiba! lol

Cornelia1986 · Post by **Cornelia1986** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:40 pm

Look at his eyes!!!!! WOW-unbelievable! Is his training now easier? Or has he become a terror-teen

TParham86 · Post by **TParham86** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:26 pm

Wow! He is soo handsome!

AZDehlin · Post by **AZDehlin** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:28 pm

He is growing up so fast.

HiTenshi16 · Post by **HiTenshi16** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:50 am

Lovely long legs

Still just love his eyes and colour <3

Kootenaywolf · Post by **Kootenaywolf** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:31 pm

Yay, new Winter pictures! Love how he looks. His legs are something else! How tall is he now? He is so stunning.

Ciaobella · Post by **Ciaobella** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:49 am

I agree those eyes are striking! He still is one of my favs next to Konah, hard to believe he is 6 months already!

Gaby · Post by **Gaby** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:47 pm

He lost his puppy teeth already, time flies! I love his eyes, he looks stunning and he will even be prettier I think!

How is his character now?

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:36 pm

I can't measure Winter, he doesn't stand still

He doesn't look very big, as he doesn't have much 'body', and overall still looks very much like a puppy. If he is standing straight, right next to Konah, he is almost as tall as her so my estimate... about 64/65cm shoulderheight.

He's a sweet boy, though still doesn't enjoy being petted by strangers. With other dogs he seems calmer then before but still get his hackles up and occasionally he will bark or growl at the other dog. If he spots a dog while he is offleash he will run straight to it with hackles raised, after he sniffed the dog then it's ok and he calms down. Today he and Konah have played with an 11 month old Amstaff male and that went fine.

Gaby · Post by **Gaby** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:42 pm

Great news Rahne. Keep up the good work!

Tatzel · Post by **Tatzel** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:36 pm

He's so handsome! I'm so curious for how he'll turn out

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:26 pm

My mud puppy is almost 7 months old

Cornelia1986 · Post by **Cornelia1986** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:44 pm

Ahhh, he is still a beauty! It's ok if you give him as a gift to me?!

If his health tests are ok would you use him as a studdog? His puppies could be awesome - as I love the arctic wolf look.
You must feel very lucky with two so damn beautiful dogs.

Kootenaywolf · Post by **Kootenaywolf** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:12 pm

Winter is stunning! Love the photos.

claireyclaire · Post by **claireyclaire** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:36 pm

Ah the joys of owning a white dog

HiTenshi16 · Post by **HiTenshi16** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:24 pm

He does not look to white anymore

AZDehlin · Post by **AZDehlin** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:44 am

He is great looking... I can't wait to see him in a thick winter coat.

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:42 am

Cornelia1986 wrote:Ahhh, he is still a beauty! It's ok if you give him as a gift to me?!
If his health tests are ok would you use him as a studdog? His puppies could be awesome - as I love the arctic wolf look.
You must feel very lucky with two so damn beautiful dogs.

Thanks! Yes I hope he can be used as studdog in the future

YouTube · Post by **Sylvaen** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:35 am

He's turning out great, I especially love the last photo.
He'll be so tall when he is full grown...

frogline · Post by **frogline** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:50 pm

Rahne wrote:

Who's the tongue???

OMG!!! flying on the right!!!

7 months and 70 cm at the shoulder???

what a biiiig boy! I love it!
Heyden have now 8 close months but only 63 cm at the shoulder!!!
Is Winter Grizzly crossed like Nanuq???

(I love the both!)

Post by **Tarheel** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:08 pm

Great photos and a wonderful looking dog. Does she ever like to stay clean?

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:31 pm

Lol, Winter his tongue is soooo long and he has it out of his mouth a lot

I'm very curious to see how big he will become in the end, he's really huge for his age

People don't think he is a puppy when they see him so when I say he is just 7 months old they're shocked lol.

Ohh and he LOVES the mud so he never stays clean for very long

Post by **Nino** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:32 am

Well he might do as his sis, and stop growing around 10-11 months..
Her tongue is giant btw too

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:19 pm

Update on Winter:

He's doing great, made a lot of progress! Sadly he's been attacked by several intact males these past few weeks, though he wasn't hurt it's a step back again dealing with other dogs

HiTenshi16 · Post by **HiTenshi16** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:24 pm

He is gorgeous

Kootenaywolf · Post by **Kootenaywolf** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:25 am

He's stunning! So sorry to hear about him being attacked. That happened to Yarrow the other week, as well, and I was so upset

He wasn't hurt either, but I'm so concerned it will have an emotional effect on him. It's a big reason I would consider neutering Yarrow. Intact males always seem to get picked on!

TeresaC · Post by **TeresaC** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:48 am

he has some crazy long legs! Sorry he has had some problems with intact males. Dylan had the same issue when he was an adolescent and it made him nervouse around other dogs. I hope you are able to work through it quickly!!

Post by **TerriHolt** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:43 pm

How do you always end up with the dogs with the loooong legs ?

How tall is he now?

Gaby · Post by **Gaby** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:53 pm

Winter is so pretty! I just loooove his eyes. I'm so curious what he will look like when he is about three years of age. You must be very proud of him Rahne!

BinBin · Post by **BinBin** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:43 am

Winter def has a lot of Valko's appearance, I suspect him to grow up looking more or less like him! Very cute.

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:14 pm

I will see if I can measure and weigh him this weekend, aswell as take some new pictures

Ciaobella · Post by **Ciaobella** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:00 am

What a gorgeous boy!!

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