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Mila's paw, update

Post by Gaby » Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:06 pm

Two weeks ago we went to the vet with Mila, because the nails on her right back paw are longer then the nails on the other paws. There are also growing hairs under the foodpads. That should mean that she doesn't use her right paw in the same way as the left paw and the vet confirmed it. He said she walked different, although her muscles are good and evenly strong in both sides. It could be a neurological problem, there could be something wrong with her hips or with her tendons (correct English?). He contacted some specialists to discuss it, because he had never seen this before. She has a bit pain when you touch the toes on that foot, but she had no pain further.
She already had a weird nail on the right paw when she came with us and when we got her we took her to the vet to check her over and he said that there was nothing wrong. It could be the same as when a person had his toe under the door and it grew back a little weird.
I really have chose the Tam because they are so healthy and I'm very sad, maybe she can't do dogsports, which I hoped to do with her. It just scares me because or other dog has HD and our plans to do dogsports with him all didn't came true and he won't get very old. :(
We have an appointment now to get x-rays from her back, back paws, hips and joints at 29 september. If they can't find anything we have to do a MRI at an orthopaedic specialist. :cry:
Has somebody here some experience with this kind of problem? Or where do we have to look at? I will have to make some more pictures of the way she is walking. I've put some video's up on an other forum, and people think there is also something wrong in her back. But these video's aren't great, I hope I can make some more and post them here.

Her are the pictures from her paws:
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Left back paw, normal hair grow:
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Right back paw, long hair:
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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Sylvaen » Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:52 pm

Hmmm strange... never seen or heard anything like this... could it just be that the paw itself is slightly deformed / misshapen? Perhaps the toe bones didn't form properly or were injured, which is why the toes aren't touching the ground (causing the extra hair to grow). I'd get her foot x-rayed first, because to me it looks as though the problem might all be located in the paw. IF the bones are all fine, but still positioned strangely, then it could indicate a problem with her nerves or tendons.
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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by hearn188 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:21 pm

Hi Gaby

I have pm'd you

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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Gaby » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:46 pm

@ Sylvaen, it could be that it is in her paw. We have an appointment for a lower back, hips and paws x-ray, the 29th of September. I really hope we know enough then to start with some kind of treatment. It does worries me. :(

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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Nino » Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:43 pm

If you cant find out anything I myself would consider trying out waterwalking I know that it can help dogs that walk the wrong way to train walking the right way because there isn't as much pressure on the foot (or what is wrong).
I would also consider consulting a chiropractor and/or a acupuncturist - at least we have those in Denmark which are specialists in canines..

This is just speculating
but I'm thinking that she might have had an injury or a little pain which have made her walk a little different and by doing so she didn't "train" her foot the right way, and she just kept walking a little strange on the foot.
By not training the foot the right way it is "underdeveloped" and that is why the foot looks a little different, the hair and nails is because the foot isn't worn like it would normally be.
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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by TerriHolt » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:14 pm

Nino wrote:This is just speculating
but I'm thinking that she might have had an injury or a little pain which have made her walk a little different and by doing so she didn't "train" her foot the right way, and she just kept walking a little strange on the foot.
By not training the foot the right way it is "underdeveloped" and that is why the foot looks a little different, the hair and nails is because the foot isn't worn like it would normally be.
(just speculating with Nino :D ) you mean like a splinter or a slight cut, something unnoticeably small but really painfull? could be possible i guess, i mean pups do develop at a fast rate and if, say a splinter took a while to work it's way out she would have been walking funny while growing.. but wouldn't gaby have noticed an odd walk sooner?

i do hope you find out in the x-rays :?
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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Sammi58 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:47 pm

How exactly does she walk, my previous dog would ALWAYS walk with her toes up, not touching the floor.. I donno if its just the picture, but thats what the 3rd picture is making me think. I think of it as like how a human would walk on their heel, avoiding using toes... get it? As for the issue, when my former dog had it, I always assumed it was because of her nails being long, and after I cut them to a suitable length it would stop for awhile..

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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Gaby » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:26 pm

Thank you for thinking what it could be that she has. I guess I would notice a strange walk sooner, when it would be something really painful. I've now noticed that if I put my hand on her back when she is walking, she will curl her back in the way a cat does it, when he is greeting you. Could that be an indicator of pain? She doesn't seem too bothered, but she also doesn't seem to like it very much.

To make it more clear and answer some questions, I have made some video's to show how she is walking, they aren't very good, but it's something:

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Walking and running without a leash, she was already tired after playing with another dog:

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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Nino » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:36 pm

Both Kovo and Sølve does the Curling of the back when you touch the right way, I've experienced this with many dogs
It's like when you lean towards a horse it normally leans back (which means if it steps on you don't push with a big surface but with one or two fingers to make it step off you, I speak of personal experiance)

@TerriHolt
Something like that, or something like it, maybe a little strain - takes a while to heal and can be a little hurtful without one notices it - again talking from personal experience (in the past 13 years I've been to the hospital 40 times :oops: )

@Gabby
I'm no expert at all, but I don't really see anything much out of the ordinary.
She doesn't seem to feel pain as far as I can see. I will put the links to a Danish forum with many experienced dog people and see what they say :-)
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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Gaby » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:42 pm

Thank you Nino! Maybe some Danish people know more about this condition. I hope there is nothing out of the ordinary, but because the vet wasn't so happy with the way she is walking I became a bit scared. I think she lies down too much during the walk, before she can be tired. I haven't seen another dog which curles her back the same way as Mila does. I hope it is the same thing as moving towards a horse (which also works with dog btw ;) ) But here are more video's:
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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by MoirAran » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:43 am

Antwoord even in het Nederlands, is wat makkelijker voor me :oops: .
In bv. het 2e filmpje wat je hebt gepost, zie ik een hele kleine onregelmatigheid in het lopen. Als Mila net begint te lopen, zie je dat het net iets uit balans is, alsof ze even de juiste manier moet zoeken van lopen. Daarin vind ik het niet soepel/evenwichtig eruit zien.

In de andere filmpjes zie je niet echt overduidelijk iets, maar toch wel soms een onregelmatigheid. Hondjes lopen normaal gesproken heel soepel, vloeiende lijnen (hoop dat je begrijpt wat ik bedoel). Soms mis ik dat bij Mila tijdens het lopen. Dan doet ze me denken aan onze oude hond, die wat stram is of dat ze juist heel veel gedaan heeft en beetje spierpijn heeft ofzo. Maar Mila loopt ook zo, als ze niet moe is?

Zou zo geen oorzaak weten. Misschien heeft ze een keertje iets in haar poot gehad en heeft zich zo aangewend om te lopen. Of is er iets anders aan de hand, qua botten, speiren, neurologisch.

Meestal zegt je eigen gevoel wel of er iets klopt of niet. Hoop dat je snel duidelijkheid hebt.
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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Gaby » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:01 am

@ Kristel, bedankt voor het meedenken!

De filmpjes waarop ze los loopt, is ze erg moe. Ondanks dat ze speelt e.d. De filmpjes waarop ze aangelijnd is, is ze niet moe. Zie je daar verschil in?
Ik snap wel wat je bedoelt met de vloeiende lijnen. Ik hoop dat röntgenfoto's HD uit kunnen sluiten, stramheid zou daar op kunnen wijzen. Ik heb niet echt de indruk dat ze heel stijf is na het rusten, maar ik heb ook niet echt goed vergelijkingsmateriaal, want onze andere hond heeft behoorlijke HD. Dus als ik een hond vergelijk met hem is die al gauw soepel in mijn ogen. Als ze al stijf is, is het over na twee stappen. Ik hoop 29 september meer te horen, dan hebben we afspraak voor röntgenfoto's. Vind het wel naar hoor, hoop echt dat er niet iets ergs aan de hand is.

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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Nino » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:31 am

aww.. would it be possible to speak english ?
I'd really like to follow this discussion :oops:
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Post by Rahne » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:52 am

MoirAran wrote:Antwoord even in het Nederlands, is wat makkelijker voor me :oops: .
In bv. het 2e filmpje wat je hebt gepost, zie ik een hele kleine onregelmatigheid in het lopen. Als Mila net begint te lopen, zie je dat het net iets uit balans is, alsof ze even de juiste manier moet zoeken van lopen. Daarin vind ik het niet soepel/evenwichtig eruit zien.

In de andere filmpjes zie je niet echt overduidelijk iets, maar toch wel soms een onregelmatigheid. Hondjes lopen normaal gesproken heel soepel, vloeiende lijnen (hoop dat je begrijpt wat ik bedoel). Soms mis ik dat bij Mila tijdens het lopen. Dan doet ze me denken aan onze oude hond, die wat stram is of dat ze juist heel veel gedaan heeft en beetje spierpijn heeft ofzo. Maar Mila loopt ook zo, als ze niet moe is?

Zou zo geen oorzaak weten. Misschien heeft ze een keertje iets in haar poot gehad en heeft zich zo aangewend om te lopen. Of is er iets anders aan de hand, qua botten, speiren, neurologisch.

Meestal zegt je eigen gevoel wel of er iets klopt of niet. Hoop dat je snel duidelijkheid hebt.
I'm going to awnser in Dutch because it is easier for me. In the 2nd movie you posted you can see a small irregularity in her walking. When Mila starts walking you can see she is a bit out of balance, as if she needs to find the right way to walk. I find her walking not flexible/balanced.

In the other movies I can't really see anything except some irregularity sometimes. Dogs would normally walk very flexible, flowing lines (hope you understand what I mean). Sometimes I miss this in Mila her walking. She reminds me then of my old dog, who is a bit stiff or that she might have done a lot and she has some muscle ache or something like that. But Mila also walks like this if she isn't tired?

Wouldn't really know a cause. Maybe she has had something in her paw once and is now used to walking like that. Or something different, in terms of bones, muscles or neurologic.

Usually your feeling will tell you if something is wrong. I hope you will have clarity soon.

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Post by Rahne » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:06 pm

Gaby wrote:@ Kristel, bedankt voor het meedenken!

De filmpjes waarop ze los loopt, is ze erg moe. Ondanks dat ze speelt e.d. De filmpjes waarop ze aangelijnd is, is ze niet moe. Zie je daar verschil in?
Ik snap wel wat je bedoelt met de vloeiende lijnen. Ik hoop dat röntgenfoto's HD uit kunnen sluiten, stramheid zou daar op kunnen wijzen. Ik heb niet echt de indruk dat ze heel stijf is na het rusten, maar ik heb ook niet echt goed vergelijkingsmateriaal, want onze andere hond heeft behoorlijke HD. Dus als ik een hond vergelijk met hem is die al gauw soepel in mijn ogen. Als ze al stijf is, is het over na twee stappen. Ik hoop 29 september meer te horen, dan hebben we afspraak voor röntgenfoto's. Vind het wel naar hoor, hoop echt dat er niet iets ergs aan de hand is.
@Kristel, thanks for thinking with me!

The movies where she is walking off the leash, she is very tired. Despite her playing and the like. The movies where she is walking on the leash, she isn't tired. Can you see difference in that?
I do understand what you mean with flowing lines. I hope the X-rays can rule out Hip Dysplasia, stiffness could point to that. I'm not under the impression that she is very stiff after rest, but I don't really have any good comparison, because our other dog has severe Hip Dysplasia. So if I compare any dog to him then the other dog is flexible soon in my eyes. If she is stiff, then it is already gone after taking two steps. I hope to hear more on september 29th, we have an appointment then for X-Rays. I'm not happy with this situation, I sincerely hope that there is not something bad going on.

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Post by Sylvaen » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:58 pm

Thanks for the translations, Rahne! My Dutch is very rusty... :oops:
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Post by Nino » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:55 pm

Rahne you are my hero :D
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Post by MoirAran » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:26 pm

Thanks for the translation Rahne. Sometimes i can't find the right words in English :oops:
Gaby, I hope you will learn more the 29th September and that everything will be fine with Mila. Some people have a funny walk, they have developed over the years, maybe dogs can too???
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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Gaby » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:42 pm

Nino wrote:aww.. would it be possible to speak english ?
I'd really like to follow this discussion :oops:
Sorry, should have thought about that!

And thank you so much Rahne!!!! :D

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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Gaby » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:45 pm

@ Kristel, yes, that could be. If she was wearing shoes I could gave her a insole (steunzool). :lol:

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Re: Problem with Mila's paw

Post by Gaby » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:07 pm

Today we have been to the vet for the x-rays. The hips, back, paw and knees were looking good, I'm very relieved about that. :) But she is young and still growing, so things can change. I was very scared of Hip Dysplasia, because the last days she is stiff when she stands up after sleeping. Sometimes a bit limping too with the right back paw. But the reason for that is probably that she has a bit pain. The vet thinks that she could have a problem with her tendons and they could be too short, what could cause the pain. He will sent the x-rays to a specialist and I will hear soon what this specialist has to say about further treatment.
We have to go and visit this specialist but I don't know if we can do this soon, because it will cost a whole lot of money (even more than the x-rays taken today) and this was really unexpected. :(

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Re: Mila's paw, update X-rays

Post by Blustag » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:53 pm

Dont look on the black side yet Gaby. Have you pet insurance?

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Re: Mila's paw, update X-rays

Post by Gaby » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:32 pm

Blustag wrote:Dont look on the black side yet Gaby. Have you pet insurance?
Thanks. ;) No, if we had pet insurance I wouldn't mind the costs. ;)
I feel so stupid now that we don't have it, but it's not because I never thought about it, didn't care, or something like that. I know a lot of dogs and I found out that if you care responsible for your dogs, give them the best food there is, don't take risks and get them from a good breeder it is almost never worth the money you have to pay for the insurance. And if you save money that you would have paid for the insurance every month for visits to the vet it is most of the times enough to pay for all the treatments a dog needs in it's lifetime.
And of course there are exceptions, as we now found out. :( Of course I will care responsible for her and if there would happen an accident which required immediate care, we can always borrow the money. ;) But it is difficult in this case, because people with no experience with dogs can't see there is something wrong with her. But I and the vet know there is, and I wished to have an active life with her, that's why I really wanted a second dog too. If we don't do anything with it, she probably will always have some pain and I can't sport with her on a high level. But she probably can live with it if we don't do anything. So that's difficult, but I'll have to wait what the specialist says.

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Re: Mila's paw, update X-rays

Post by MoirAran » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:02 pm

I'm glad, there is no damage to Mila's hips, etc.
Sorry to hear Mila has some pain :( . Hope the specialist can give you an answer.
As for the costs, maybe you can ask this vet if it is possible to pay by instalments.
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Re: Mila's paw, update X-rays

Post by Gaby » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:39 pm

MoirAran wrote:I'm glad, there is no damage to Mila's hips, etc.
Sorry to hear Mila has some pain :( . Hope the specialist can give you an answer.
As for the costs, maybe you can ask this vet if it is possible to pay by instalments.
Thank you for your reply. We are going to ask that if we go the specialist. ;) I really, really want to go there with her.

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Post by Akim » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:45 am

Hello Gaby
For me that would rather look for a blockade and not to a bad hip.
Can you maybe make a video of just the back and slightly from above?
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Post by Nino » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:20 am

the only one commenting on the danish forum I was on btw. said she would think that Mila might have broken or strained her foot (or a small bone) when she was little and that had made her walk a little different, but she didn't think it looked like she was in any pain..
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Re: Mila's paw, update X-rays

Post by hearn188 » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:24 pm

Hi Gaby

Sorry to hear that might be a problem with Mila leg but at least it isnt a more serious problem which must be a relief.

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Re: Mila's paw, update X-rays

Post by Gaby » Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:16 am

Akim wrote:Hello Gaby
For me that would rather look for a blockade and not to a bad hip.
Can you maybe make a video of just the back and slightly from above?
Excuse my bad English
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Hi Cora,

Her hips are good, as far as we can see now, when she is till so young. It could be a blockade. I will try to make a video soon. We are thinking to go to a physiotherapist or somebody else that could detect blockades, but I want to wait what the specialist says before we do that. ;) Thank you for your reply!
Nino wrote:the only one commenting on the danish forum I was on btw. said she would think that Mila might have broken or strained her foot (or a small bone) when she was little and that had made her walk a little different, but she didn't think it looked like she was in any pain..
Thank you for posting it on the Danish forum! :D
Yes, that is what the vet thinks too. But no bones have been broken, as seen on the x-rays. But it is very possible that in the womb or at birth she got stuck which caused damage at nerves and tendons. At the Dutch dog forum there were people who had experience with that and the symptoms looked the same. It could be the cause of the strange nail too. Lynn never noticed anything out of the ordinary when she was with her and there didn't happen anything with her paw when she was with us, so that why I think it happened at or before birth.

@ Anette, thank you! It's very nice that she doesn't have bad hips. I hope it will not get worse, I think she gets a bit more stiff the last time, but I will keep an eye on it.

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Post by Nino » Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:35 am

You might be right.. (and youre welcome for the posting on the danish forum, we need to help each other out where we can right?)

Not sure Lynn noticed there was anything wrong - maybe the exstreme growing that a puppy this age goes through made it much more clear..
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Re: Mila's paw, update X-rays

Post by Akim » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:12 am

Hello Gaby
I'm no expert but I learned that physical therapy for animals
If you could make such a video, you can draw some lines and angles seen
Such a blockage can occur rapidly and is quickly put back in order
Most affected is the Illiosacralgelenk
I also had someone from Holland in my course - I look for you if you like the address
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Post by Blustag » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:48 pm

No nothing happened with any of the puppies from this litter and all are fine.
I have my puppies in very close contact with me up until the time they leave here so would have known if there had been any problems. They are all in my kitchen which is HUGE. When they have freedom in the gardens they are observed the entire time. I dont like to take any chances ;) Both Gaby and Rahne have been to my house so they know what my facilities are like :D

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Re: Mila's paw, update X-rays

Post by Nino » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:07 pm

Lynn it wasn't that I don't think you didn't keep an eye on it at all - sorry if you got that impression..

What I was thinking is that it could be something she was "born with" but first became clear when she started growing like puppies this age do..
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Post by Blustag » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:35 pm

No offence taken :D I was just letting people know that nothing happened to any of the puppies while they were here like in an accident :D

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Post by arianwenarie » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:37 pm

Gaby, have you looked into a canine massage and accupressure therapist? I have a friend who is a canine massage therapist who also does accupressure work on dogs and horses. She recently made a blog post about a dog who suffered from a broken toe that would not heal for over 5 months so their owners decided to try accupressure and massage sessions for a month to see if that would do any good. Tina figured, if anything, the sessions would help her with the pain and give the dog a chance to relax a little.

Perhaps Mila's body just needs a little help to heal whatever's causing this? Sorry if this wasn't much help...I'll be lurking this thread and sending good energy Mila's way. <3

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Post by Nino » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:18 pm

Blustag wrote:No offence taken :D I was just letting people know that nothing happened to any of the puppies while they were here like in an accident :D
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Re: Mila's paw, update X-rays

Post by Gaby » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:40 am

Akim wrote:Hello Gaby
For me that would rather look for a blockade and not to a bad hip.
Can you maybe make a video of just the back and slightly from above?
Excuse my bad English
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Hi Cora,

Here are the video's you requested, are they okay? I hope they can help.
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@ Lynn, of course I know that if there happened an accident during the time they where with you, you would have noticed. And I saw the aria you keep the pups and that is perfect. Thats why I think it happened in the womb or at birth. It was easy to miss, I didn't notice the strange nail immediately. It became more obvious when she grew, like you suggested Nino.

@ Arianwenarie, I will probably go to that after the advice the specialist will give. I think he will recommend something like that and give some addresses where we can go to. I think it will benefit the way she moves. I believe it can be of much help with certain problems like this one. Thank you for your advice!

And there went something wrong with emailing the specialist, so I have to wait a little bit longer for the advice. I will post it as soon as I have heard of them.

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Re: Mila's paw, update X-rays

Post by Gaby » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:45 pm

I have the results from the specialists opinion of the x-rays. Her bones and hips show no abnormality. He thinks that he can see what is wrong with her after a physical check-up. He thinks that there has been damage to the nerves or tendons (what the vet thinks too) or subluxation from the joints. He wants to see her and than think about a treatment. I don't know when we are able to visit him. I will give an update when we go there.

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Post by MIKA » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:30 pm

Hi Gaby, for now this is a great result, that is NOTHING wrong with Mila's hips and bones! Keeping my fingers crossed that the end result will not be as bad!
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Post by hearn188 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:23 am

Good news that they think they know what is wrong and can now work out how to help her .

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Post by Blustag » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:42 pm

That is good news :D

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Post by wicca1 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:09 am

thats good news hope all goes well :)

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Post by AZDehlin » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:29 am

Good news, hopefully with some therapy she will be good as new :)

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Post by MoirAran » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:21 pm

I'm glad that there is nothing wrong with Mila's bones.
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Re: Mila's paw, update

Post by Katlin » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:44 am

I did some digging around and found a friend's dog had a similar problem except there was no excess hair growth, everything else was the same though. I talked to her and she said the did surgery for a pinched nerve on the dog's hock (the equivalent of our heel I gather). She said he spent (4 or 6...??) weeks in a cast after the surgery and after a bit of muscle toning and water therapy he turned out fine. I hope Mila's problems will be fixed too :)
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