Escape Artists?

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Escape Artists?

Post by danamescobar » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:27 pm

I own a Siberian Husky and a Siberian Husky mixed breed (German Shepherd) and my Husky, Swordsman, is definitely an escape artist. My husband and I are looking into finding a suitable breeder and introducing a Tamaskan Dog into our household, but were wondering if Tamaskan's are just as good at escaping as Siberian Huskies?

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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by Blustag » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:23 pm

Good question... I have the sibes and mals and only one of my sibes is an escape artist. As for my Tamaskan some will escape and others wont bother. I have one Tamaskan who is quite small but can climb over a twelve foot plus fence. He can also escape from a wolf enclosure by climbing up, and hangs upside down while he will crawl along and over the 'lean in' which is supposed to stop anything from getting out lol... you see this kind of security fence in zoos :lol: :lol: :lol: Now he is in an enclosure which is concrete with a roof :lol: I guess its just the luck of the draw but in comparision I would say they are not as bad as huskies ;)

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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by TeresaC » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:19 am

Our Luna will "escape" to be with us or to get out of her crate. As long as she can be free in the house, she is happy. We have given up on trying to keep her in certain areas of the house.

So far she has not tried to escape from the yard. She is happy to play there. I think as with any breed, some will try harder than others.
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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by michifloo » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:05 pm

Blustag wrote:I have one Tamaskan who is quite small but can climb over a twelve foot plus fence. He can also escape from a wolf enclosure by climbing up, and hangs upside down while he will crawl along and over the 'lean in' which is supposed to stop anything from getting out lol... you see this kind of security fence in zoos :lol: :lol: :lol:
THAT WOULD BE A FUN VIDEO TO SEE!!!!! :D
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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by Blustag » Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:42 am

Yes I wish I had taken video of him when he was doing it but it was when we lived in Finland :lol: He used to climb up and over the fencing and then take a gigantic leap off onto the ground... its a wonder he never broke his neck, but mostly landed in either very deep snow or soft undergrowth ;) He would then run around the perimeter and try to find a way back in... Now he has a very safe roof over his head :lol:

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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by JulieSmith » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:09 am

LOL

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Post by SpiritEcho » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:20 am

Blustag wrote:Good question... I have the sibes and mals and only one of my sibes is an escape artist. As for my Tamaskan some will escape and others wont bother. I have one Tamaskan who is quite small but can climb over a twelve foot plus fence. He can also escape from a wolf enclosure by climbing up, and hangs upside down while he will crawl along and over the 'lean in' which is supposed to stop anything from getting out lol... you see this kind of security fence in zoos :lol: :lol: :lol: Now he is in an enclosure which is concrete with a roof :lol: I guess its just the luck of the draw but in comparision I would say they are not as bad as huskies ;)
LMAO I love that story I guess it's a good thing they dont have Tams at the zoo

though I'll agree and say it's dependent on the individual my sibe can only manage to jump up onto my bed
or jump into my truck yet she cant bail over a board which is lower than the floor of my truck, she is more of a sneak
if I don't watch her when she is out the front she takes off out the front gate and vanishes into thin air so it seems.
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Post by Tarheel » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:15 am

One of our Tamaskans, (Blaze) has quite the talent for being able to escape; however, he is not trying to get out, but he breaks into the house. Blaze can open the sliding glass door to the porch and back yard. If he wants in the house, he will grab the door handle and wedge his front paws onto the door frame and pull. Once he get enough of the glass door slid open he will then wedge his head and body into the opening and pry the door open enough to get himself and the other dogs into the house. He never trys to let himself out, he just rings the bells we have hanging by the door and we let him out. I guess ringing the bell is easier for him then opening the door. When Blaze is in the house, he opens the baby gates to the family room quicker and easier than most people can. Tundra would just sail over the top and Kana and Jaeger just sit and wait for Blaze to open the gate for them. Is is very funny to tell Blaze to open the gate and let the others in. Why the others don't learn from Blaze is beyond me. Blaze has now firgured out how to open the regular doors to the house. A couple times before we thought perhaps that we did not close the door completely that leads from the back yard where the dogs are to the garage. Yesterday while the doogs were outside and Tina was upstairs in the shower, Tina thought she heard some nioses in the house, but just assumed that is was noise from the television. The next thing Tina notices is Blaze sticking his head in the shower giving her a bit of a scare as she thought she was the only one in the house. Blaze let himself into the garage by turning the door knob of the door and let himself into the garage, he next went up the stairs from the garage and opened yet another door nob stile door and let himself into the house. From there he went upstairs to the shower and poked his head through the shower curtain to see what Tina was doing.
I don't know how he figures these things out, but I think I will have to talk to Blaze and tell him that he needs to close the doors when he lets himself in, and if he forgets to wipe his feet, he will be learning how to vaccuum the carpets next.
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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by Tamaddict » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:20 am

Lol, I can just picture Blaze going to let the others through the baby gate. So cute!
Though I suppose it isn't cute when hes escaping from you. :D
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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by Misaya » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:07 pm

Wow, Blaze is clever. My two don't seem to have much escape drive.
Ayasca is pretty lazy and Mischa is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, bless her :)
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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by andrewr » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:05 pm

unfortunately our 2 Tamaskans are escape artists. We no longer allow them in the paddock unsupervised as incredibly they have managed to crawl under tiny gaps in the fencing into the adjacent sheep field. They have a chase drive rather than a prey drive (they don't harm the sheep), but even so it's very distressing and dangerous.

Last night the worst thing happened. Blaez managed to jump over our chicken pen fencing. 3 chickens died of fright; we are absolutely mortified. I can't get the image out of my head. We had socialised the puppies from 8 weeks old with the chickens, and they have ignored them.. But for some reason last night, Blaez couldn't resist.
Lesson learnt the hard way that dogs are dogs- and we need much higher fencing.
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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by Wave2Tuffy » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:17 pm

Wave, from day 1, was able to get out of his crate. He can open doors too :lol: Blaze probably taught Wave before he left Tarheel :lol: He does not try to escape from the backyard, though.

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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by Nino » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:17 pm

I've had to double secure Sølves crate because she got out, now she cant, but she keeps on trying..
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Post by WhiteElkDoe » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:46 pm

Sophie figured out who to pull apart & wiggle through the back panel of her wire crate. It was secured by hooks so it could be collapsed flat. She figured out how to coordinate pushing and pulling to get the back panel apart from the side and roof just enough to wriggle out. I think she figured it out watching me do it, but who knows. :roll:

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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by tigerstedt » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:49 pm

Compared to e.g. German Shepherds Tamaskans are Alcatraz-sertified escape artists. I've tried most things to no use. At one time she was in a pen with some GSD play mates. Chances had it it was a 7 feet high lamb wire fence topped by electrical wire (of course not connected to the fence, just a separate band on top of the fence to stop the GSDs from trying to jump over). Very effective against the GSD. Our Tamaskan, however, just clipped the grounding wire (I'm not kidding!) and over she went.

Good thing, though, it looks like she doesn't want to run away, just run to her human pack members.

Best bet is a long zip-line with a flexible chain if your Tam needs to be unsupervised for a short period.
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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by Blustag » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:22 pm

I have one boy DINGO who is my smallest male who can escape out of almost anywhere. When in Finland we had wolf enclosures built for wolves (of course :lol: ) but ended up putting some of the dogs in some of them. Dingo and his mates being one. So we've all seen these wolf enclosure fencing... straight up and leaning inwards ;) well Dingo used to 'climb' the fence and then climb 'under' the 'inhang' and over the top and then leap off the top which was at its highest over 10 feet. He would then be on the outside and run all around the compounds trying to get back in again :lol: It really used to worry me so we raised the fences another two foot and he still did it. I wouldnt have believed it except I actually saw him doing it. He used to hang upside down to do it. I ended up having to chain him inside the compound which of course wasnt what I wanted but either that or lose him. We lived in the middle of a forest with 'real' wolves all around and I couldnt chance him being attacked. He can also squeeze through the tiniest gap. God knows how but he does. Nowadays he is in a pen that has a concrete floor and a steel roof with NO gaps :lol: He cant get out of that :lol:

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Post by maartendq » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:30 pm

Blustag wrote:I have one boy DINGO who is my smallest male who can escape out of almost anywhere. When in Finland we had wolf enclosures built for wolves (of course :lol: ) but ended up putting some of the dogs in some of them. Dingo and his mates being one. So we've all seen these wolf enclosure fencing... straight up and leaning inwards ;) well Dingo used to 'climb' the fence and then climb 'under' the 'inhang' and over the top and then leap off the top which was at its highest over 10 feet. He would then be on the outside and run all around the compounds trying to get back in again :lol: It really used to worry me so we raised the fences another two foot and he still did it. I wouldnt have believed it except I actually saw him doing it. He used to hang upside down to do it. I ended up having to chain him inside the compound which of course wasnt what I wanted but either that or lose him. We lived in the middle of a forest with 'real' wolves all around and I couldnt chance him being attacked. He can also squeeze through the tiniest gap. God knows how but he does. Nowadays he is in a pen that has a concrete floor and a steel roof with NO gaps :lol: He cant get out of that :lol:
You should have taped that, would have been a youtube-hit ;)

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Post by WhiteElkDoe » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:15 pm

I think the summary of everyone's anecdotes is as follows: tamaskans are CLEVER dogs. If they really want to get out, chances are they will find a way. However, most are happy to be where they are, with the exception of crates in the case of our Sophie ( :roll: ), and won't try to escape. Making sure that they are properly introduced to crates and well exercised should go a long way in preventing any escapist behavior.

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Re: Escape Artists?

Post by Blustag » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:43 pm

maartendq wrote:You should have taped that, would have been a youtube-hit ;)
Yes I realise that now but never thought at the time :lol:

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