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X-back Harnesses!

Post by Sylvaen » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:19 pm

Can anyone recommend a good website from which I can order good quality X-back Harnesses for huskies / sled-pulling dogs, etc... MUST be able to ship internationally (or at least to Europe).

I went to the local Pet Superstore here in Zagreb and they only sell regular "walking" harnesses - nothing that is suitable for proper pulling. Now that Jasper is old enough and Vixen has weaned her first litter, we're starting to take them out for bike rides at the weekends (when the weather isn't too hot) and we will also be getting a sled soon for winter. We're just looking for some recreational fun... but we want to make sure that we have the proper gear so they don't get hurt in the process. :)
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Post by HiTenshi16 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:19 am

I've been searching around myself and found this website that I would like to buy my Canicross gear from, hope this helps
http://www.innerwolf.co.uk/
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Post by Sylvaen » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:02 am

Thanks for the link! :)

The only problem is that they only stock the harnesses in one color (black) and since I have 2 dogs, it would take longer to see which harness is for each dog... rather than at a glance. Ideally, I'd like a black one for Jasper and a pink one for Vixen.

I do like their Hands Free Belt though... might have to add that to my purchase list. ;)
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Post by claireyclaire » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:12 am

I know a few people have recommended the company below and a I have a feeling that Lynn might use them too?!

http://www.snowpawstore.com/
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Post by Nino » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:52 am

Sylvaen wrote:Thanks for the link! :)

The only problem is that they only stock the harnesses in one color (black) and since I have 2 dogs, it would take longer to see which harness is for each dog... rather than at a glance. Ideally, I'd like a black one for Jasper and a pink one for Vixen.

I do like their Hands Free Belt though... might have to add that to my purchase list. ;)
When I was horseback riding the harness had one of theese on so that we could see which harness was for which horse.
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If you cannot find two different colors that might be a solution for you.

I'd like a hands free belt too.. atm. I tie the line around my stomach, since I have a bad back and the uneven pulling of our sledmix Kovo, hurts my back..
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Post by Blustag » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:32 pm

This is where I buy all my equipment for my dogs. The owners name is Phil and he is happy to chat away forever with you. He is an expert when it comes to equiping out your dogs for racing or whatever. I even used him when I lived in Finland as he exports no worries. His equipment is of high quality and he supplies most of the racing folk in UK.
http://www.culpeppers.co.uk/ You are safe to pay in advance and he will post goods out to you.

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Post by Tori » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:25 pm

I know a lot of husky owners on my forums (as well as myself :) ) who order from Alphine Outfitters (http://www.alpineoutfitters.net). I do believe they ship internationally. They also sew in the name of your dogs for free when you order :)

Koda has an awesome x-back harness that we LOVE and use to bikejor. I need to get one for Hailey as soon as we start teaching her commands!
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Post by MoirAran » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:06 pm

It is a dutch site, but they have the x-back harness in different colors and give good advice (You can find them under Sledehonden artikelen):
http://www.hondenspul.nl

Another dutch site (but also available in english):
http://www.callofthewild.nl
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Post by Sylvaen » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:34 pm

Thanks everyone!
I'll check out all these sites. Much appreciated! :D
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Post by HiTenshi16 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:07 pm

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Post by Hawthorne » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:27 pm

I know I'm in the US--but for those reading this post who are, I bought an X-back harness, lines and skijoring harness from skijornow.com
They made a custom size harness for Freyja--to her measurements. very well made equipment!
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Post by Sylvaen » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:36 pm

Just a little update! :D

I ended up ordering a bunch of equipment from SnowPaw Store (based in the UK) as they had the widest selection that appealed to me - and I ended up getting black harnesses (Nordkyn) after all! Anyway, this afternoon we practiced some harness work to get them used to wearing them...

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More photos HERE! :mrgreen:

I'll be getting a cart soon (for dryland mushing) and a sled for winter. We'll also be bikejoring at the weekends as well as canicross so expect plenty of photos, which will be posted here on the forum and on facebook. ;)
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Post by HiTenshi16 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:38 pm

I hate being broke! I really want to get some for Ulric and Rukia like that, be really great for my morning walks.
Jasper and Vixen look good in their harnesses :D
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Post by TerriHolt » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:37 pm

sled sounds fun... it could make snowy walks to school more fun,

look forward to the pics...
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Post by Katlin » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:35 am

Looks like sooo much fun!
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Post by AZDehlin » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:44 pm

This is exciting! I am looking forward to seeing some pictures with a dryland cart... I have been looking at getting one, but I think I am going wait until next summer.

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Post by Hawthorne » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:05 am

The lines we use have several types of bungee cord in them. That way there is some give to the line and it isn't as hard on the dog--or on you--when you start out. They were all hand made and have a reflector sewn into them. I like them a lot.
Thoughts about bungee chord type lines vs. non-stretchy type?
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Post by dash » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:40 am

Just a quick word of caution about x back harnesses. They shouldn't be used on anything except a sled or dry land rig as the attachment point on these is very low. X backs come to the very back of the dog, which alters the strain point when you have a high attachment point.
Universal harnesses are now recommended for cani cross, bikes and scooters, in fact x backs are now banned from cani cross races in this country. Universal harnesses protect the dogs inter costal muscles.
If you're dog is an escape artist they can also back out of an x back harness and are off running free, which isn't that helpfull when you're out on the trails!!!!!

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Post by EskyTheHusky » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:44 am

Oh thanks for that info Dash, I did not know that.
So are X backs still appropriate for what we do here? Pulling a rig/ scooter?

What are the universal harnesses, are the similar to tracking style?
Do your dogs wear x back?
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Post by Blustag » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:43 pm

I use x-back for all my dogs and havnt had a problem ...yet :D I do agree
with Dash though that the dogs can get out of them very easily if they wanted to. I use a rig and a scooter. Sled when we have snow ;)

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Post by dash » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:41 pm

We use a Manmatt universal harness as our dogs pull a scooter and a rig. If you only use a rig X backs are fine.
I'm sure dogs have been using x backs for skiing, etc for years with no problems, but someone somewhere must have done some research so these are the latest findings.
Probably in a few years time, they'll change their minds and we'l be changing everything again!!!!

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Post by Ariana » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:36 am

We know the folks who originally owned Alpine Outfitters. I'd also suggest getting your dog fitted for a harness from a nearby musher.

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Post by Katlin » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:41 am

This is a very old topic but to add on...as long as your dog is standing properly it is very easy to measure them. I got my chocolate lab an x-back from alpine outfitters and it fits perfect. I'm getting one for my Tam from Manmat because they are standard sizes and much cheaper, I'll get him a custom one when he's done growing.
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Post by Karen » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:13 am

Am I the only one having problems with just buying X-backs from internet without ever having experience with a certain brand?

It comes pretty precise how the x-back fits on the dog. I fit every single dog into a harnas myself before buying anything. The minute you know wich dog fits perfect in what brand ( differences per dog!) and the size you need that specific harnass in, you can buy from the internet...
Having the wrong harnas can seriously injure your dog.

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Post by Katlin » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:19 pm

Most sites have very precise measurements for their standard sized harnesses and others (like Alpine) are fully custom made from the measurements you provide. Not everyone can go shopping through a bunch of different harness brands, they are not possible to find in stores anywhere in southern Alberta.
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Post by Karen » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:19 pm

Still keeps the same idea: If you have no experience with how your dog works, how he pulls or exactly how to measure ( and believe me, I know how they describe the measurements on websites ;) ) It is very difficult.
FRom experience I can tell it goes wrong an awful lot of times...

And even when the measurements are correct, it still doesnt mean it is the correct harnas for the dog ;)

Just always try to get somebody there who has experience with working dogs when you try the harnas on, let them see how the dog works and measure again when the dog pulls or after working. Feel where the last rib ends, where the diaphragm end en where the end of the back is in that harnas.

Our tamaskans had 4 different x-backs and ended up with a hound ( zero) harnas. No x-back at all! And it works better then any x-back I tried on them.
Where as our huskies dont work well in those harnasses and all have their own x-back.

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Post by Ariana » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:00 pm

One of our dogs, while having a typical Sibe-like body, runs in an H-back. There's also the distance harness.

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Post by Balto » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:13 pm

dash wrote:Just a quick word of caution about x back harnesses. They shouldn't be used on anything except a sled or dry land rig as the attachment point on these is very low. X backs come to the very back of the dog, which alters the strain point when you have a high attachment point.
Universal harnesses are now recommended for cani cross, bikes and scooters, in fact x backs are now banned from cani cross races in this country. Universal harnesses protect the dogs inter costal muscles.
If you're dog is an escape artist they can also back out of an x back harness and are off running free, which isn't that helpfull when you're out on the trails!!!!!
i planned to buy x-back harness for bikejoring, on hiking im using this walking harness http://precioustails.com/images/thumbna ... _38186.jpg

is that universal harness?

i think to get Musher x-back harness, i saw them already and friend is using it for few years, they proved to be very good and really cheap
http://musher.ro/

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Post by Karen » Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:48 pm

dash wrote: If you're dog is an escape artist they can also back out of an x back harness and are off running free, which isn't that helpfull when you're out on the trails!!!!!
Can only happen when you have just a one -dog-team and is easy to prevent : Take a neckline and put this through the collar of the dog and back to the top end of the harness. This way the dog is always secured to its collar.

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Post by Hawthorne » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:25 pm

Our trainer at our mushing workshop recommends saddle back harnesses, especially if the dog is pulling a sled or rig. Sleds and rigs have a very low connection point (the line is close to the ground). Because our breed is so tall (as are this musher's dogs), an x-back harness will actually pull the rear legs down and put more strain on the dog. She could only recommend x-backs for activities that have a higher connection point such as canicross, skijoring, etc.
Saddleback harnesses can be found at dogbooties.com
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